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·刘蔚回忆录1.111:凉山战役:中共军七个师损失惨重
· Wei Liu Memoir 1.111: Liangshan Battle: 7 Chinese Communist Divisions
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·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 446: Employee Lei Yang, Master Degree D
·刘蔚:雷洋多半没有嫖娼—唤醒国人/白开水革命之447
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 447: Lei Yang Unlikely to Have Had Sex
·刘蔚:普通百姓反思文革50周年—唤醒国人/白开水革命之448
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 448: Common People Recollect on the Cul
·刘蔚回忆录1.112:79越战:东线中共军惨败了
·Wei Liu Memoir 1.112: Yietnam War 1979: Chinese Communist East Front S
·刘蔚回忆录1.113:79越战:中共军全线失败了
·Wei Liu Memoir 113: Yietnam War 1979: Chinese Communist Failed in the
·刘蔚:对于战争,习近平同样只会喊喊而已—唤醒国人/白开水革命之449
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 449: About War, Xi Jinping Can Only Tal
·刘蔚回忆录1.114:中国威胁论应改为中共侵略论
·Wei Liu Memoir 114: China Threat Should Change to Chinese Communist In
·刘蔚:欢呼!金重齐消灭了一两名中共国保—唤醒国人/白开水革命之450
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 450: Acclaim! Jin Zhongqi Has Annihilat
·刘蔚:留在美国根本需要热爱美国—唤醒国人/白开水革命之451
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 451: Staying in the United States Mainl
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·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 452: International Arbitration, Communi
·刘蔚回忆录1.115:79越战是越军教训了中共军 白开水革命
·Wei Liu Memoir 115: 79 Vietnam War: Vietnam Forces Gave Chinese Commun
·刘蔚:来美国第一个五年别想绿卡的事—唤醒国人/白开水革命之453
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 453: First Five-Year in U. S. Do Not Th
·刘蔚:中共军要继续打压其师兄师傅师叔吗?—唤醒国人/白开水革命之454
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 454: Should Communist Forces Keep Strik
·刘蔚:魏京生等反思文革具有巨大现实意义—唤醒国人/白开水革命之455
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 455: Democratic People Like Wei Jingshe
·刘蔚:要么在美国每月一千美金,要么在中共国每月一千人民币
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 456: Either $1000 a Month in the United
·刘蔚:找个美国公民留在美国完全可行
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 457: It Is All Right to Find a U. S. Ci
·刘蔚:好华人社会在海外,坏华人社会在大陆 —唤醒国人/白开水革命之458
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 458: Good Chinese Society Is Outside Ch
·刘蔚:华人的真正祖国在海外 —唤醒国人/白开水革命之459
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 459: Chinese’s Real Homeland Is Overse
·刘蔚:中国人要么革命,要么出国—唤醒国人/白开水革命之460
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 460: Chinese Either Overthrow the Commu
·刘蔚:共产党搞的是马列国,不是中国—唤醒国人/白开水革命之461
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 461: What Communist Do Is Marxism, Not
·刘蔚回忆录1.116:79越战中共是罪恶一方,越南是正义一方
·Wei Liu Memoir 1.116: 79 Vietnam War: Chinese Communist Is Guilty, Vie
·刘蔚:换单位换家庭都不如换国家—唤醒国人/白开水革命之462
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 462: Job Change, Family Change Cannot C
·刘蔚:海归与文革同样荒谬—唤醒国人/白开水革命之463
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 463: Returning to Communist China Is Ab
·刘蔚:不能留在美国的华人都是封闭自己—唤醒国人/白开水革命之464
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 464: Whoever Cannot Stay in the United
·刘蔚:海归就是自取灭亡—唤醒国人/白开水革命之465
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 465: Chinese Returning to Communist Chi
·刘蔚:海归已死,独木桥派已败—唤醒国人/白开水革命之466
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 466: Oversea Returners and Using Profes
·刘蔚:留学生陷入了进退两难的严重困境—唤醒国人/白开水革命之467
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 467: Oversea Students Are in Serious Di
·刘蔚:来了美国,要嫁就嫁美国人/公民—唤醒国人/白开水革命之468
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 468: Coming to America, then Live with
·刘蔚:来美后就是成为美国公民的人生总决战—唤醒国人/白开水革命之469
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 469: Becoming U. S. Citizen—Decisive L
·刘蔚:最坏莫过官员,最傻莫过海归—唤醒国人/白开水革命之470
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 470: Communist Official Evilest; Overse
·刘蔚:成为美国公民才是真业绩—唤醒国人/白开水革命之471
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 471: Becoming U. S. Citizen Is Real Ach
·刘蔚:欢呼!一周内四省村民消灭中共村官起义了—唤醒国人/白开水革命之472
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 472: Acclaim! Peasants in Four Province
·刘蔚:参与民主活动,百分之百成为美国公民—唤醒国人/白开水革命之473
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 473: Participating in Democracy, Becomi
·刘蔚:我刘蔚就不承认“一个中国”原则—唤醒国人/白开水革命之474
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 474: I, Wei Liu, Do Not Acknowledge “O
·刘蔚回忆录1.117:我被评上了“三好学生”
·Wei Liu Memoir 1.117: I’m Selected to be the Moral-Wisdom-Health Good
·刘蔚:海归比上山下乡更荒谬—唤醒国人/白开水革命之475
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 475: Returning to Communist China Is Mo
·刘蔚:三分之二强的海归后悔了—唤醒国人/白开水革命之476
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 476: Over Two-Thirds Oversea Returners
·刘蔚:热烈祝贺刘蔚从事民主十年了—唤醒国人/白开水革命之477
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 477: Congratulations on Wei Liu Worked
·刘蔚:普通百姓2017年新年文告—唤醒国人/白开水革命之478
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 478: Common People 2017 New Year Words
·刘蔚:百万留学生不懂如何留在美国—唤醒国人/白开水革命之479
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 479: 1 Million Chinese Students Do Not
·刘蔚:国家,国家,先有国,才有家—唤醒国人/白开水革命之480
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 480: Only in a Good Country Can A Famil
·刘蔚:欢呼!中共国土局长起义了!—唤醒国人/白开水革命之481
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 481: Acclaim! Communist Director of Lan
·刘蔚:共产党对富人从网开一面到一网打尽—唤醒国人/白开水革命之482
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 482: Communist Party Does Not Let Rich
·刘蔚:海归等于把点球踢飞,丢人—唤醒国人/白开水革命之483
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 483: Returning to Communist China Is Li
·刘蔚:宣布成立民主政府是起义关键一步—唤醒国人/白开水革命之484
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 484: Declaring of Democratic Government
·刘蔚回忆录1.118:我把“三好学生奖状”钉上了墙
·Wei Liu Memoir 1.118: I Nail the “Good Student Certificate” on the W
·刘蔚: 要留在美国只能走移民的道路—唤醒国人/白开水革命之485
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 485: To Stay in the United States, One
·刘蔚: 华人问候语,“你是美国公民吗?”—唤醒国人/白开水革命之486
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 486: The Greetings Between Chinese Shou
·刘蔚: 2000年起,人生就是选择题—唤醒国人/白开水革命之487
·Wei Liu/Plain Water Revolution 487: Since 2000, Life Is Multiple Choic
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Wei Liu Memoir 1.112: Yietnam War 1979: Chinese Communist East Front S

刘蔚回忆录1.112:79越战:东线中共军惨败了 白开水革命

   公友/民主人士/觉醒人士/普通百姓 刘蔚 2016年6月4日 星期六 Wei Liu Memoir 1.112: Yietnam War 1979: Chinese Communist East Front Sees Total Failure Plain Water Revolution

   Human Rights Worker/Democratic People/Awakened People/Common PeopleWei Liu June 4, 2016 Saturday 1979年重庆,我9岁了。我举起了我的望远镜,进入了21世纪。凉山战役从3月1日开始到3月5日结束,历时4天。中共军消灭了越军第3师的80%左右的人员,打下了谅山。对于中共军伤亡到底有多大,几十年来中共的军界,媒体讳莫如深。我们只能按军事历史推算了。一般来说,如果进攻部队遭到严重伤亡,那么攻击1天,部队的伤亡会在15%以上。造成中共军很大伤亡的谅山战役历时4天,估计中共军7个师的伤亡达到40%,也失去了战力。双方各师都以15000人计算。那么越军第3师的损失为 15000 X 80% = 12000人,中共军7个师的损失为 15000 X 40% X 7 = 42000。中共军比越军多损失42000—12000=30000人。所以我们觉得谅山战役是越军胜利了,中共军失败了。

   1979, Chongqing, China, and I’m 9 years old. I take out my telescope and enter the 21st century. Liangshan Battle is from March 1 to March 5 of 1979, 4 days. Chinese Communist Army annihilated about 80% of the troops of No. 3 Vietnam Division and occupied Liangshan. For decades, Chinese Communist military and the media do not talk about the casualty of that battle. We can only reckon the casualty by military history. Generally speaking, if the attacking force suffers serious casualty, the casualty should reach 15% after one day attack. Liangshan Battle, caused Chinese Communist serious casualty, lasts for 4 days, then the casualty of its 7 divisions should have reached 40%, lost the fighting capacity. Counting each division has 15,000 troops, then the loss of No. 3 Vietnam Division is 15000 x 80% = 12,000; the loss of the 7 Chinese Communist divisions is 15000 x 40% x 7 = 42000. The more loss of the Chinese Communist is 42000 – 12000 = 30,000. Therefore we say Liangshan Battle is a victory of Vietnam and a failure of the Chinese Communist Army.

   我刘蔚更多文章见我的海外博讯boxun网站的博客,加上前后的www, com 我名字在首页底部的作者群中。More writings of mine see my blog at www.boxun.com, under my name “刘蔚”, or you can google me by “刘蔚回忆录,” “白开水革命”,“Wei Liu Memoir”, “Wei Liu Revolution”, “Plain Water Revolution”.我们在这里说的,也是对全中国民众说的,都是我们认为真实的情况。欢迎各位,各媒体传播,登载,救自己,救别人,救中国。

   前面说了,在东线中共军投入了约6个军18个师。高平战役使其中11个师伤亡惨重,失去了战力。谅山战役又使另外7个师伤亡惨重,失去了战力。就是说战争从1979年2月17日到3月16日打了一个月,已经使东线全部6个军失去了战力。有些人讲,“现在拿下了谅山,前面是平原,拿下河内指日可待。”这些人不是不了解真相,就是与中共高官一样,不顾部下死活,草菅人命。

   As we said before, the Chinese Communist deployed 6 armies, that is 18 divisions in the East Front. Gaoping Battle brought serious casualties to its 11 divisions, lost of fighting capacity. Then Liangshan Battle brought serious casualties to its another 7 divisions. In other words, this war from Feb. 17 to March 16, 1979, a month, has made the 6 armies in the East Front lose its fighting capacity. Some people say, “Now we have taken Liangshan and in front is just the plain, all the way to Hanoi, the Vietnam capital. It should just take days to take Hanoi.” These people do not know the truth. They are the like the Chinese Communist high officials who disregard the living or death of the subordinates and loss of life is nothing to them.

   我们对于中共政权/高官公布的对越战争中共军的总伤亡才3万人的数字,根本不相信。与其它行业的报喜不报忧一样,中共军事上也是如此。按它说的,国共三年内战它才阵亡26万人,可能吗?而1989年杨尚昆又说,“共产党的江山是牺牲了两千万烈士换来的。”那26万与两千万相比,简直可以忽略不计。那共产党那两千万人又是什么时候被消灭的?八年抗战对日军还是十年内战的红军时期?所以很多人有同感,“共产党的报纸除了日期是真的,其它的都是假的。”

   We feel hard to believe the published casualty number by the Chinese Communist regime that its casualty in this war is just 30,000. Like its other professions, the Chinese Communist military only reports the good things and do not report the bad thing. According its media, during the 3 years of Civil War from 1946 to 1949, its killed in action is just 260,000. Is that possible? In 1989, Yang Shangkun, a high general of Chinese Communist, said, “The Chinese Communist got the regime by loss the lives of 20 million comrades.” Compared with 20 million, 260,000 is nothing. Then when is the 20 million troops of it annihilated? Is it in the 8-Year Anti-Japanese War or the 10-Year Civil War from 1927 to 1937? Its fighting scale in those periods is much smaller than the 3-Year Civil War from 1946 to 1949. So many people have the same feeling, “On the Chinese Communist newspaper, except the date, all the content are lies.”

   再看看对越战争的西线战事。在西线中共军11,13,14,还有约一个边防军的部队,共4个军,12个师对方越军的第345,316A两个师,6对1的兵力优势。杨得志指挥的西线部队伤亡明显比东线部队小,我是说伤亡率。西线部队攻占了老街,沙巴等地方,从边境向南推进约40公里。1979年3月5日中共中央宣布并下达撤军令后,西线部队于3月13日全部撤回中国,而东线部队于3月16日才全部撤回中国。指挥东线部队的许世友恋战,军委说打下谅山就不打了,谅山就是3月5日打下来的。东西两线部队从边境向南推进了不过40公里。真正要撤回来,3天足够了。东线许世友在打下谅山,中央宣布撤军后还要继续往南打,耽误了至少1天的撤军时间。就在3月5日这天,越南政府下达了全国总动员令。各路越军兼程北进,有意消灭侵略者,给中共军以重创,包括全歼了150师的448团。

   Now we look at its West Front during the war. The West Front of Chinese Communist force consists of No. 11 Army, No. 13 Army, No. 14 Army and another army of frontier force, total 4 armies, that is 12 divisions, against No. 345 Vietnam Division and No. 316A Vietnam Division, total 2 divisions; that is 6: 1 in favor of Chinese Communist. The West Front commanded by Yang Dezhi suffers obviously less casualties rate than the East Front. The West Front has occupied places like Laojie, Shaba, advancing about 40 kilometers from the border into Vietnam. On March 5, 1979 Chinese Communist Military Committee issued the order of withdraw. The West Front completes the withdraw on March 13; the East Front completes it on March 16. The East Front commander Xu Shiyou wants to continue the war. When the Military Committee says that after taking Liangshan, taken by March 5, all troops go back to China, and the troops from both fronts has only advanced 40 kilometers into Vietnam, 3 days should be enough for all the troops to withdraw back to China. But the East Front commander continues attacking toward the south and has wasted at least 1 day. On the same day of March 5, Vietnam government issues the National Mobilization Order, and all Vietnam troops in different positions moving swift to the north to catch the Chinese Communist troops, including completely annihilated No. 448 Regiment of No. 150 Division of the Chinese Communist force.

   刘蔚回忆录1.112:“ 79越战:东线中共军惨败了”完 《走过六年高考岁月》第1本书:《从出生到小学毕业》待续 The end of “Wei Liu Memoir 1.112: “ Yietnam War 1979: Chinese Communist East Front Sees Total Failure” Walking Through Six Years Examination/Wei Liu Memoir Book One From Birth to the Graduation of Elementary School to be continued

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