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Wei Liu Memoir 1.81: Vietnam War 1979 Let Deng in Full Power

刘蔚回忆录1.81:越战使邓小平大权在握—六年高考

   公友/民主人士/觉醒人士/普通百姓 刘蔚 2015年1月31日

   Wei Liu Memoir 1.81: Vietnam War 1979 Let Deng in Full Power

   Human Rights Worker/Democratic People/Awakened People/Common People

   Wei Liu January 31, 2015

   邓小平一派也不会用军队。元老派/邓派不是军委主席,不好调兵。但当时邓派有理论上的优势,那就是不要打了,搞建设,自然赢得广大的人心,所以他强调要有民主。因为这个时候在中央委员等100来人的局部投票,会对他有利。1978年最后两个月的中央工作会议及12月的十一届三中全会可以说是华国锋等毛派和邓派争夺的天王山,在这场争夺中,显然邓派取得了全面的胜利。

   Deng Xiaoping Faction does not move the force/military against Mao Faction either. Senior Faction/Deng Faction is not the Military Chair, having no authority to move the military. But Deng Faction has the advantage in theory that is to stop fighting and focus on economy, which naturally has won people’s heart. So he emphasizes democracy. Because at that time if there were an election among the 100-odd Central Committee members, it would be in his favor. The last two months of 1978 and the Third Conference of the 11th Convention of the Communist Party in December 1978 is the decisive battle between Mao Faction and Deng Faction. Obviously Deng Faction has won the comprehensive victory of it.

   接着在1979年1,2月邓小平访问美国,日本,对美国人讲他要惩戒越南。1979年2月任总参谋长的邓小平一回国就发动了对越战争。西线云南由杨得志指挥,出动第11军,13军,14军,50军,共4个军。东线广西由许世友指挥,出动第41军,42军,43军,54军,55军,共5个军。全线还有58师,边防师,炮兵师等部队参战,兵力应在1个军以上。全线总共出动的兵力应在10个军以上,多半50万人以上。战争历时约3周,1979年3月结束,全军撤回本方边界。中共军的伤亡肯定大于越军,特别是东线许世友的5个军损失惨重,第448团被越军俘虏了。越战应该是越军打败了中共军。

   One month later in January, February of 1979, Deng visits the United States and Japan, telling Americans that he will punish Vietnam. In February 1979, as Chief of Staff of the Military, Deng launches out the Vietnam War. The West Front is led by General Yang Dezhi from Yunnan Province, China, consisting of the 11th Army, 13th Army, 14th Army, 50th Army, 4 armies total. The East Front is led by General Xu Shiyou from Guangxi Region, China, consisting of the 41 Army, 42 Army, 43 Army, 54 Army, 55 Army, 5 armies total. The whole front also has No. 58 Division, Border Division, Artillery Division, etc. The military deployed altogether should be over 10 armies, over half a million troops. The war has lasted about 3 weeks, ending in March 1979 and all troops have withdrawn back to border of China. The casualty of Chinese Communist Military is more than that of Vietnamese Military for sure. Especially, the five armies under Xu Shiyou’s command has suffered tremendous loss, with No. 448 Regiment entirely taken prisoners by Vietnamese Military. In this Vietnam War, Vietnamese Military has defeated Chinese Communist Military.

    如果你还想你或你亲友每人拿回土地,住房,医疗,拿回包括公民税率,政府各方面开支等社会事务的表决权这些民主人权,你最好读完这篇长文。你可以从Google translate/谷歌翻译听文章的朗读。你可告诉你外国朋友/老师我写的英文。他们可以在google上用“Wei Liu Revolution” or “Wei Liu Memoir”搜寻出我的文字。更多文章见我的海外博讯boxun网站的博客,加上前后的www, com 我名字在首页底部的作者群中。从2007年到2015年1月,我博客的显示点击量已达500万,而按博讯说的各博客的实际点击量是显示点击量的10倍以上,那我博客的实际点击量到2015年1月已达5000万。我们的文字是对中国民众说的,是我们认为真实的情况,欢迎各位,各媒体.转载,传播。一个人给5个以上人讲我们《伟大的中国全民大革命》中的1项国际公约,2项活动主张,4项基本人权,8项优秀活动,及本县/市政权楼等几个地址,民众兵器弹弓枪等起义事宜,壮大进步力量,救自己,救别人,救中国。

    If you want you or your friends in this life to get back the human rights of half an acre land, welfares of housing, medical care, the voting rights on the tax rate and the government budget, you’d better read through this long essay. Google translate can read text aloud for you. If you have foreign friends/teachers, you may tell them to read the English part of my essay. They can google me out by “Wei Liu Revolution” or “Wei Liu Memoir”. More articles of mine can be seen in my blog at “boxun”, with “www” in the front and “com” in the back, my name Wei Liu/刘蔚 is at the bottom of the homepage. From 2007 to 2015, my blog has 5 million displayed visits, and the website says that the actual visits is 10 times as the displayed visits. Then the actual visits of my blog is 50 million. What we say here we hold is true and is for 1.3 billion Chinese people. Every one is welcomed to publish, to spread our words, one person tells 5 or more persons, about the 1 international convention, the 2 uprising opinions, the 4 fundamental human rights, the 8 excellent activities, the couple of addresses of the Communist regime buildings in the local county, the uprising elements like the slingshot of people’s weapon. Anyway, we expand the democratic strength to save ourselves, our friends and our country.

   通过这场战争,邓向美国人示好,用实际行动显示中国愿意与美国一起对抗苏联及其盟友,向西方/民主国家实行对外开放。同时,魏京生等民主人士指出,邓通过这场战争抓了军权。在越战前,邓要搞下去一个人费时费力;越战后,他要搞下去一个人就是一句话了。

   Deng shows the friendliness to the Americans through this war, using the actual action to show that Communist China is willing to be a friend of the United States and fight against the Soviet Union and its allies, willing to open China’s door to Western/Democratic countries. Democratic People like Wei Jingsheng has pointed out that Deng gets full military power through that war. Before the Vietnam War 1979, it takes great effort for Deng to remove a person from the high official position; after that war, it just takes him to speak a sentence to do so.

   我赞成魏京生的这个观点。在军队工作过的人都知道,和平时期军队的调动是很难的,因为部队生存有它的环境,包括营房,食品供给,各种重型装备,各种服务,各种朋友等等,这些都是与一个地方连在一起的。你要把部队比如一个团调到另外一个地方,那这个团到了那里如何生存?军人没有人愿意被调动的。能够调动军队的人肯定是军队的真正上级。看看越战,驻地在河南的54军被邓向南调到了广西前线,邓同样可以向北把它调到北京,54军离北京还比离广西近些。于是中共其它大员一看,自己已无与邓小平彻底对抗的实力了。越战使邓小平大权在握。

   I agree to this view of Wei Jingsheng. People who have worked in the military all know that it is very hard to move troops during the peace time, because the troops have its living environment, including the barracks, the food supply, all kinds of heavy weapons, all kinds of services, all kinds of friends, and etc., which all tied with the local community. If you want to move a regiment from one place to another place, how can that regiment live in the new place? None of the soldiers wants to move to another place. The one who can move the troops is definitely the real superior of the military. Look at the Vietnam War, the 54th Army garrisoning in He’nan Province, China has moved to Guangxi Region, China to the south, which is farther than it moving to Beijing to the north. Thus, Deng can move it to Beijing in the same way. So by looking at this, the other high officials in the Communist Party have realized that they do not have the power to seriously against Deng Xiaoping. The Vietnam War 1979 let Deng Xiaoping in full power.

   这其实是中国,中国民众的悲哀。对于社会事务的不同意见应该由13亿人一人一票来表决,而不该由谁能有军队,谁能打来决定。有人说,“你说13亿人包括儿童?”我说13亿人指全国所有的人,儿童将来满18岁也会有表决权,所以全国的重大事情,由全国13亿人一人一票表决,这个话并不错。

   This is in fact sad for China, for Chinese people. The different opinions among people should be decided by the universal vote among 1.3 billion Chinese people, not by the few who has the military and who can fight. Some people say, “Does your 1.3 billion Chinese people include children?” The 1.3 billion people said by me means all people in China. Children will have their voting right when they reach 18 years old. So it is all right to say that the national big issues in China should all be decided by the vote of the 1.3 billion Chinese people, one person one vote.

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